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This is entirely for my own use, as I loved the discussions about the concept of what one would find in the tawdry chivalric novels crammed onto Geralt’s bookshelves in Kaer Morhen, being the foundation of his notions of sexuality and all, and because Tumblr’s tagging system is garbage and useless I just manually scrolled back and found all my posts on this topic, and am going to link to them here, so that I can find them again. Given that I’m posting a chapter containing some of the distilled essence of all this discussion pretty soon, it seemed like the thing to do to collect and review it all. (if you didn’t really want to be tagged in on this discussion do let me know and i can untag you, but that assumes the tagging system works at all which i mean, it usually doesn’t, on this blue hellsite.) (I sort of want to credit people here where I can because I am AWFUL at remembering where I got ideas and giving people credit and remembering that I did not in fact originate said ideas in my own genius brain, so like. That’s the impetus, here.)

1) Squid on the Mantelpiece– in which I bring up a scene I wrote wherein the first time Jaskier is in Geralt’s room, Geralt sort of realizes that his bookshelves are full of incriminating material which he’d never thought of that way before, and then I speculate on what that incriminating material should be, and ask for input. 

2) More Brainstorming: featuring [personal profile] mikkeneko suggesting Unrealistic Dryads, [profile] 2nico suggesting super-overwrought poetic language, and [profile] astroloquacious suggesting some juicy courtly love power dynamics and pointing out that Geralt’s particular kinks are likely to be emotional and heavily-rooted in his personal traumas. This entry features me figuring out that it’d be the most hilarious to have it be an extremely tame and vanilla sex scene. This also is where I resign myself to probably having to write an outtake scene with Yen and Jaskier going through the whole collection, so, stick a pin in that and come back to it.

3) Oh apparently I can reply : feat [personal profile] nogling suggesting that Witchers are an in-universe romance novel trope, and [profile] 2nico again with the brilliant fucking notion that of course Kaer Morhen, as a self-contained institution, would have its own highly-specific memes and like, cult-classic kind of media– in fact basically every bit of media in the place would be sort of cult-classic-y, and so there was definitely one particular bodice ripper every single person who went through that training program read and it has warped all their minds slightly in the same way so they’re all conditioned to find one really strangely otherwise-unobjectionable thing extremely hot.

4) untitled, featuring [profile] astroloquacious weighing in with observations about terrible romance novels, [profile] s_leary offering encouragement, and [profile] 2nico with the notion of how out in the world experienced prostitutes see the Wolf medallion and instantly know which extremely niche mild kink to go for with laser precision, and [personal profile] mikkeneko refining the Unrealistic Dryads Novel into pure hilarity. This might be the first post where I go into some detail imagining how semi-disappointed Yennefer is that Geralt is so extremely tame in his laser-focused Not Actually That Weird fetishes.

5) and i rolled up my sleeve featuring me rambling about the Clancy Brothers and the pre-Internet world of trying to learn about sex, and [profile] meninkimono  weighing in with the recollection of the wild things inexperienced youths can come to believe about sex which made me suddenly realize that a Wolf school Witcher is like a Catholic school boy really, and [profile] exrayspex being supportive, and I transcribed a suggestion from a DM from [personal profile] sabra_n  that the detail could be something really mundane about women’s costuming that the text sort of unwarrantedly eroticized which made me think of SHOES ON IN PORNOS like, omg why is that a thing?? 

6) an anonymous ask from LuciferCircle suggesting that the particular memefied sex act the witchers are all obsessed with should be fisting, which like, is hilarious on a meme level if nothing else

7) draft version : in which I post up, finally, the Amadis-of-Gaul pastiche which is extremely, extremely vanilla and I think will be in the next chapter of Ancient Sea, but also I got into some of the things I might put in the extra scene that are not nearly so vanilla

8) untitled  containing replies to that post by [personal profile] sabra_n encouraging the bondage aspect and [profile] rionsanura pointing out that for witchers, being a monsterfucker has got to be one of the perks of the job, and I was thinking honestly Geralt might not think of monsterfucking as being particularly kinky, really a lot of his id is so twisted that he thinks of really boring shit as being kinky. I mean, for him, someone not wanting to be violent with him is probably pretty unusual, so. 

8) how you say, normal  in which [personal profile] mikkeneko observes what a rich vein Geralt vs bondage would be given his control/consent issues, and I go off wildly on a tangent about autochorissexuality and the ace spectrum which in hindsight was kind of left field but at the time I was really feelin it, with some spot-fucking-on contributions from a side conversation between [personal profile] akilah12902 and [personal profile] laurelnose.
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sabra-n replied to your post “ancient sea progress: Geralt’s Formative Porn, draft version”

oh man I hoped bondage would be involved in some way thank you for fulfilling all my dreams

Oh yes. And Yen’s like … holding your wrists with my hands? come on Geralt we can do better than that, we could do like, rope suspension or like, spreader bars, like we can get serious about this, and Jaskier is like hissing out the side of his mouth don’t scare him off we have to work up to that shit and maybe she compromises by tying Jaskier down real pretty and Geralt is so anxious he can’t really enjoy it until he’s watched how Super Into It Jaskier is. and maybe. once they’ve been doing this a while and nothing’s gone wrong. maybe then. maybe then he’d be okay trying it. 
(I’m not writing all that, likely, but I do like to think about it a little, LOL. For uhhhhh the character dynamics…)

rionsanura replied to your post “ancient sea progress: Geralt’s Formative Porn, draft version”

this is DELIGHTFUL and i think probably being a monsterfucker is sort of a job… not requirement, but perk, of being a witcher, cause you See the Humanity in the Monsters etc. and besides Geralt, Eskel at least is canonically a monsterfucker

Like…. I mean, not all Witchers, obviously, but like. Especially if you know what’s up with succubi they’re not all that terrible an idea, it’s remarkably responsible of Eskel, though to combine it with drug use was possibly not as great an idea. Still, though. There are lots of monsters who are both sapient and relatively human-compatible. 

it’s Jaskier’s turn to be a little pouty at how vanilla all Geralt’s monsterfucking stories are, at least until Geralt shows a set of scars he got from an encounter gone slightly wrong. It’s not that Jaskier’s a monsterfucker himself, see, but he’s really into the idea, a little bit, being thoroughly human himself. (Yen is innately terrifying enough that there’s not that much that’s transgressive for her in fucking nonhumans, so she doesn’t find it all that interesting, except insofar as it’s funny for Geralt to admit, and also it’s hilarious to tease him with the ridiculous tentacle hentai.)

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