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This is entirely for my own use, as I loved the discussions about the concept of what one would find in the tawdry chivalric novels crammed onto Geralt’s bookshelves in Kaer Morhen, being the foundation of his notions of sexuality and all, and because Tumblr’s tagging system is garbage and useless I just manually scrolled back and found all my posts on this topic, and am going to link to them here, so that I can find them again. Given that I’m posting a chapter containing some of the distilled essence of all this discussion pretty soon, it seemed like the thing to do to collect and review it all. (if you didn’t really want to be tagged in on this discussion do let me know and i can untag you, but that assumes the tagging system works at all which i mean, it usually doesn’t, on this blue hellsite.) (I sort of want to credit people here where I can because I am AWFUL at remembering where I got ideas and giving people credit and remembering that I did not in fact originate said ideas in my own genius brain, so like. That’s the impetus, here.)

1) Squid on the Mantelpiece– in which I bring up a scene I wrote wherein the first time Jaskier is in Geralt’s room, Geralt sort of realizes that his bookshelves are full of incriminating material which he’d never thought of that way before, and then I speculate on what that incriminating material should be, and ask for input.

2) More Brainstorming: featuring

mikkeneko suggesting Unrealistic Dryads,

2nico suggesting super-overwrought poetic language, and

astroloquacious suggesting some juicy courtly love power dynamics and pointing out that Geralt’s particular kinks are likely to be emotional and heavily-rooted in his personal traumas. This entry features me figuring out that it’d be the most hilarious to have it be an extremely tame and vanilla sex scene. This also is where I resign myself to probably having to write an outtake scene with Yen and Jaskier going through the whole collection, so, stick a pin in that and come back to it.

3) Oh apparently I can reply : feat

nogling suggesting that Witchers are an in-universe romance novel trope, and

2nico again with the brilliant fucking notion that of course Kaer Morhen, as a self-contained institution, would have its own highly-specific memes and like, cult-classic kind of media– in fact basically every bit of media in the place would be sort of cult-classic-y, and so there was definitely one particular bodice ripper every single person who went through that training program read and it has warped all their minds slightly in the same way so they’re all conditioned to find one really strangely otherwise-unobjectionable thing extremely hot.

4) untitled, featuring

astroloquacious weighing in with observations about terrible romance novels,

s_leary offering encouragement, and

2nico with the notion of how out in the world experienced prostitutes see the Wolf medallion and instantly know which extremely niche mild kink to go for with laser precision, and

mikkeneko refining the Unrealistic Dryads Novel into pure hilarity. This might be the first post where I go into some detail imagining how semi-disappointed Yennefer is that Geralt is so extremely tame in his laser-focused Not Actually That Weird fetishes.

5) and i rolled up my sleeve featuring me rambling about the Clancy Brothers and the pre-Internet world of trying to learn about sex, and

meninkimono weighing in with the recollection of the wild things inexperienced youths can come to believe about sex which made me suddenly realize that a Wolf school Witcher is like a Catholic school boy really, and

exrayspex being supportive, and I transcribed a suggestion from a DM from

sabra_n that the detail could be something really mundane about women’s costuming that the text sort of unwarrantedly eroticized which made me think of SHOES ON IN PORNOS like, omg why is that a thing??

6) an anonymous ask from LuciferCircle suggesting that the particular memefied sex act the witchers are all obsessed with should be fisting, which like, is hilarious on a meme level if nothing else

7) draft version : in which I post up, finally, the Amadis-of-Gaul pastiche which is extremely, extremely vanilla and I think will be in the next chapter of Ancient Sea, but also I got into some of the things I might put in the extra scene that are not nearly so vanilla

8) untitled containing replies to that post by

sabra_n encouraging the bondage aspect and

rionsanura pointing out that for witchers, being a monsterfucker has got to be one of the perks of the job, and I was thinking honestly Geralt might not think of monsterfucking as being particularly kinky, really a lot of his id is so twisted that he thinks of really boring shit as being kinky. I mean, for him, someone not wanting to be violent with him is probably pretty unusual, so.

8) how you say, normal in which

mikkeneko observes what a rich vein Geralt vs bondage would be given his control/consent issues, and I go off wildly on a tangent about autochorissexuality and the ace spectrum which in hindsight was kind of left field but at the time I was really feelin it, with some spot-fucking-on contributions from a side conversation between

akilah12902 and

laurelnose.

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mikkeneko replied to your post “sabra-n replied to your post “ancient sea progress: Geralt’s…”

god, bondage as a kink for geralt has the potential to be so characterization JUICY for him given his general control issues

oh gosh, and here we could get into some sort of… autochorissexual issues too. I mean– not to digress and self-insert too much, but I’m on the ace spectrum [like, for sure on the sex-pos side but like, still definitely on it] and have never quite been able to nail down how to describe it, but I definitely have a ton of things I think are super hot in porn that I would never ever ever ever ever want to actually do in real life in any way*? and so a lot of times when I consume porn I do not do so as myself, right? Like, ok, I should explain that– I think of this as perfectly normal, so it’s hard for me to imagine what “””””normal”””” people must think/feel, but like. Just as most people, I guess, take the gender of their intended partner into account primarily when looking for a sexual partner, which is super alien to me but seems to be genuinely the case for the majority of people, so too I am led to assume that most, or at least many, people connect pornography to arousal by imagining themselves as one of the participants?

But, see, I think a lot of people do feel like I do, where most erotica/porn isn’t particularly consumed #1 directly for titillation or #2 with the reader projecting themself directly into the role of one of the participants. But those two things are, I’m led to believe, super common.

(cut for length, and i digress about Geralt’s ability to consent given his incredibly low self-esteem as well, and the complicating factor that Yennefer can read minds and is not exactly what you’d term an uncomplicatedly good person)

Anyway– I think it’s likely that a lot of things Geralt thinks are hot are not things he has ever imagined himself doing. Like, I feel like he’d be super-practiced at compartmentalizing in such a way that like, he can read a book where there’s something he finds super-hot and maybe even actually literally gets off reading about, without ever imagining it really happening to himself the way he exists physically in reality.

[*footnote: This is distinct from the issue of liking things in porn that are too Problematic to pursue in real life, like noncon or logistically-impossible or morally-indefensible things. Like, that’s a separate issue and no I am not arguing that people who self-insert in rape fantasies are immoral or anything like that– again, sexuality is not moral, and me being demisexual does not make me morally superior {like, by my orientation i have no real impetus to cheat, that does not make me pure somehow, anymore than being naturally skinny makes someone healthier than me} {not that anyone has said anything like this, I’ve just seen some Bad Takes.}]

So like– the idea of someone being restrained during sex can simultaneously be something he finds incandescently hot to contemplate, and also not something he wants to do or have done to him.

BUT. I also feel like he’s possibly compartmentalized too much, and that a lot of the things he finds hot are things he would actually enjoy having done to him in real life (like… all the cherishing and being loved and whatnot). And so, yes, it’s perfectly likely that he would actually really really really like being handcuffed to the headboard (or entirely tied up like in the elaborate rope bondage thingies fandom loves) (which, just for another example and not to be TMI, I like reading about and like looking at but have never so much as seen in real life and have zero interest in ever actually trying, given my poor RL communication skills and hypermobile joints and suchlike, absolutely no thank you– just for an example!) – so, yes, this was a long way of saying you’re super right about that and I completely expect to find this fascinating to explore.

Ah yes, and I’d forgotten– earlier in the series I’ve had Geralt’s POV point out that he’s not super into masturbation, which could partly be a valid, like, ace thing, and could partly be a kind of trauma response, where he’s convinced he’s so disgusting that he often can’t even bear to pleasure himself, or just that he finds it too distressing because it makes him realize how unfulfilled he is (which is at least the motivation I’ve had him state to himself).

Side note: in every canon Geralt loves sorceresses and in most of them he seems pretty goddamned whipped by said sorceresses, and while that surely says a lot about him and his pretty well-established deep-seated belief that he is fundamentally unlovable and must make up for it by being as agreeable as possible in every scenario he can manage to do so, does it not also say a lot that his preferred sexual partners are people more powerful than he is? Does that not seem to indicate that he is afraid that he could hurt people and wants to protect himself from that by seeking out partners who are more powerful so that he can’t? And so, just to riff on that, having Jaskier, who is innately much less powerful than he is, both physically and, like, personally, have physical power over him by tying him up– well, I just think that’d be interesting, but unfortunately having Yennefer there shifts that balance quite a bit. (Well, and there’s another question– would Jaskier even be capable of actually restraining Geralt in a way he couldn’t escape? but Yennefer sure would.)

Which leads to a fascinating issue to contemplate, which I was discussing with

akilah12902, which is that a gentle, loving partner for Geralt would really have to struggle with a lot of this, because 1) Geralt’s bad at boundaries and can’t meaningfully differentiate between Hard No Because No vs No Because He Thinks It’s Not Allowed, and 2) Geralt’s fucking terrible at consent anyway and hasn’t got a great boundary between Yes I Want That and Yes I Will Do This Even Though I Don’t Want To Because I Fully Believe That If I Ever Tell You No You Are Absolutely Never Going To Offer Me Anything Again, and he seems to invoke that latter one for shit that makes no sense to be like that about.

Which brings up the side issue that 1) Yennefer can read his thoughts, 2) he knows Yennefer can read his thoughts and hates it, but 3) if she reads his thoughts she can tell the difference between the four above conditions and so he is more likely to get what he wants, except that 4) of course #3 violates his consent in a huge and fundamental way. Which is fodder for a really, really juicy fight between Jaskier and Yennefer, who is used to not being trusted and yet is really going to be hurt by Jaskier not trusting her that 3 is the least worst option she feels she has, there.

And

akilah12902 was good enough to share that she’d been having a convo with

laurelnose on that topic, and he’d pointed out that given Yennefer’s own past she certainly isn’t great at understanding boundaries either, which is certainly a good point and also is separately fascinating to contemplate– would she even have the framework to understand that Geralt cannot generally enforce most of his boundaries in any meaningful way because of his absolute terror of rejection, and so while talking him into things he wants but doesn’t think he can have is reasonable, overriding his clear non-consent for something important like his fundamental right to privacy in his own mind is not even if her intentions are good. You could really, really, really do some fantastic and juicy character work with that premise.

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Normally I’d do this in batches of related topics or whatever but something I reblogged got a ton of notifications and for some reason Tumblr’s not grouping them together so I had to scroll for three days to get to any notes about any other posts, so like, yikes, sorry, here’s a firehose of everything interesting anyone’s ever said to me. Thanks, Xkit, for allowing reply-replies, but sorry, Dreamwidth peeps, for what an incoherent mess the crossposter makes this into.

msilverstar replied to your post “updates from the middle-aged”

a) sprinklers ≠ whole pool, b) May ≠ August

i mean, fair, but we also had a kiddie pool and we also just sprayed the hose on each other, and it was over 90 yesterday.

akilah12902 replied to your post “UNDERCUT ACHIEVED”

That undercut is just magnetically attractive. I was gonna play the whole game with the long hair but the opening screen kept TAUNTING me and I went undercut and haven’t changed it since.

I can’t get over it, it’s sort of horrifying to me what a difference it makes for me. I have to re-evaluate myself in ways I wasn’t prepared for.

missbuster replied to your post “updates from the middle-aged”

Uhhh. Remember it’s still May and snowed like three weeks ago so the large bodies of water + water tables are still frigid

I mean, fair, but, I did this in spring as a kid. I have noticed that the temperature of the water at my parents’ house doesn’t vary seasonally, but the municipal water supplies in Buffalo and Rochester absolutely do, which is super weird

waxscoralpants eplied to your post “updates from the middle-aged”

My mom used to fill our kiddie pool and then boil several kettles of water to dump in. What a sweet gesture, in retrospect

awww!!!

Last night I emptied the muddy water and refilled the pools with clean water, so that it could be at least ambient temperature this afternoon. Of course, having done that, it’ll be rainy and we won’t play outside, but we need the rain so it was all really kind of a ploy to exploit Murphy’s law.

akilah12902 replied to your post “updates from the middle-aged”

HOW ON EARTH, AS THE SKINNIEST DARN KID, I EVER MANAGED TO LIVE WITH HOSE WATER

Right?? I was a lil beanpole too!!

I really remember our fingernails and lips being blue and our mom making us stop playing

saffronheliotrope replied to your post “mouths of babes vol 749”

My 2yo was EXTREMELY AFFRONTED when I started wearing shorts and he encountered my sting hairs. Sorry, kiddo. Shaving in a quarantine is *all done hands*

STING HAIRS. She re-shaved yesterday, the fool– I was like no that’s your protective layer, and she just laughed.

mikkeneko replied to your post “Extra Dad Jokes”

So of the pig farmer, the military logistics, and the party-planner, which was the one you would ask to hide a body and which one got offended?

The pig farmer! Who, in retrospect, is also super-intense and competitive, so IDK why I didn’t see that coming except I fully expected her to be like “I have a business, I can’t risk the cops involving themselves!” and she was like HOW DARE U. She’s super ruthless but also ride or die and how dare I forget that.

bittylildragon replied to your post “Extra Dad Jokes”

Oh man, Lambert’s Tragic Dead Boyfriend Revenge Quest and Geralt’s ‘you smell wonderful at this funeral’ line AND his dad jokes all in one evening

It was really a pretty magical evening.

missbuster replied to your post “Extra Dad Jokes”

For the first time in my life my house is getting central air too. I cannot fucking wait.

Oh I know, man. But my dude got the first quote and sent me this bitmoji of himself (the bitmoji looks a lot more like Cary Elwes than Dude actually does, for the record):

[image description: bitmoji cartoon of green-eyed white blond man with a moustache and goatee making a dead-eyed open-mouthed grin while flinging green bills of US currency over his shoulder with wild abandon]

but i mean, the furnace is from the late 70s or early 80s and has to Go, so

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Sorry, I’ve realized that when these replying-to-replies posts crosspost to DW they’re basically incomprehensible, but if I try to add any formatting to make it obvious when I’m quoting a reply and when I’m actually replying to it, the whole thing just truncates. So… apologies, my DW lovelies, if you click through you can see I’ve got it all carefully blockquoted!

sugarspiceandcursewords replied to your post “replying to replies witcher playthrus edition”

Oh shit I have not heard or even thought about “Ber-SER-KER!!” in years and now I’m cackling. “Did he just say ‘making fuck’?”

God that movie is so good. I rented it from the indie video store that also had all the anime, and a bunch of friends lay on my bed with me and watched it on my computer, including I think both DF and my Dude before he was my Dude and was visiting for a weekend. It’s a weird lil memory to have! oh college. those were. such weird days. I can’t imagine now trying to cram eight or nine full adults into a double bed and having it not be weird, but that was just sort of how we lived once we didn’t own a TV anymore. (Which means it’d’ve been senior year, so, 2001, in the winter, which yeah, that’s when Dude came to visit his former roommate who was then my roommate who is now, fun fact, an NCAA fencing coach at a large university, and that’s when I met Dude.)

nogling replied to your post “now it’s time for that leisurely swim in the sewer outlet”

I cannot tell you how many times Geralt fell to his death off the top of that stupid, stupid lighthouse before I said fuck it and used a god-mode mod to make him immune to falling damage.

ohhhh hey. (WAIT does that mean you HAVE to fight the wyvern from the tower top???? Oh my god that was ridiculous.) You know, I have no idea how mods work but what I thought was really funny was that, I don’t remember what I’d Googled, but I found a predictable thing about a mod someone had made so Geralt would be Super Shredded, but then I immediately found another mod someone had made to give Geralt a more realistic “dad bod”, and I was like, you’re all right, modding community, I don’t understand you at all but you’re all right.

stele3 replied to your post “now it’s time for that leisurely swim in the sewer outlet”

There’s a barber on the right-hand side of Novigrad who is very drunk all the time and if you go to him for a haircut the first time he gives you something you did NOT ask for. You can also give Geralt short hair, a mustache, and a

soul patch. (Accidentally clicked Reply too soon.) it is a very Cursed Look and I recommend you get it at least once.

shit I gotta talk DF into Drunk Barber. Probably funnier if I don’t tell him why first. We’ll see if I’m up to the challenge.

I dunno I’m hard-pressed to think of a more Cursed Look than the muttonchops-and-mullet look DF originally went with.

brotherhoodoftheslice replied to your post “now it’s time for that leisurely swim in the sewer outlet”

Hahaha! The fork-throwing line is straight from a short story, except the problem there wasn’t that no one could see him hit the rat, but rather how unnerving it was that he could 1. Obviously see in the dark, and 2. Throw random cutlery that hard and accurately. Geralt: Check this out :D Humans: O_____O Geralt: :C

wait you mean people aren’t super impressed with your freaky mutant powers??? Oh Geralt :( :( :( Poor baby just wants friends and the whole time he was growing up showing off your Freaky Mutant Powers was how you socialized, how’s he to know that’s not something outsiders are going to find awesome???

Them not being able to see that he’d succeeded is much funnier, though, I get it.

akilah12902 replied to your post “now it’s time for that leisurely swim in the sewer outlet”

Radovid isn’t in charge of Novigrad, but he likes and supports the church of the Eternal Fire, so they (who are doing the mage burnings) have free reign anywhere in places ruled by him. And the church is centered in Novigrad. also, sorry, do go ahead and do Novigrad dreaming; there’s a point where the quests diverge, and you get a Main Quest to try and find Dandelion, you wanna do all that first (like uh, if you were wondering where the point of no return was)

ALSO: Geralt! He’s just so happy to talk to a friend!

Gotcha. And poor bb. He’s so lonesome, he’s just so lonesome.

Oh my gosh now I kind of want to mash him up with the puppeteers in Martha Wells’ Wheel of the Infinite– her Badass Solo Character (who is a grandmotherly devil-priestess) has interrupted her Solo Sulking Journey Across The Wilds by falling in with a troupe of itinerant puppeteers and it’s fantastic because the whole plot winds up set in motion because she has to go forage for an herb to make a medicine for a sick toddler and in the process rescues the Hot Young Barbarian Swordsman In Distress from certain death, and she’s this utterly terrifying badass and all the itinerant puppeteers love her and now there’s this barbarian swordsman stalking them in order to repay the life debt he owes her (and occasionally inappropriately bathing in temple pools and such because as a barbarian he doesn’t know better), and it’s just such a good first chapter to a novel. I wish more people had read that book, doing a rewrite of parts of it with Geralt as Maskele and Jaskier as the main puppeteer guy would be so entertainingly rewarding. But nobody’s read that book, which is a fucking tragedy and entirely a failure of marketing. (The first edition made the dark-skinned protagonist have green skin because alien is apparently more marketable than Black, and the second edition flipped the cover so the barbarian swordsman, who is white, was on the front cover and the protagonist was on the back. Sigh.)

mikkeneko replied to your post “replying to replies witcher playthrus edition”

I plan to play the game as soon as I have enough free time so I appreciate these posts!

Oh good! I hope this is in any way useful. There are like, way more comprehensive walkthrough strategies available of course, and even great videos that give you a wonderful idea of what to expect, but I figured– well, this is how I’m getting entertainment and if I write it down it’s even more entertaining, y’know? I’m going for atmosphere more than accuracy though so like, don’t necessarily take my word at 100%, my notes aren’t all that careful.

akilah12902 replied to your post “replying to replies witcher playthrus edition”

re: the eyes, that may just be the cutscene or something? I recall the full black eyes the one time I wound up with a ton of toxicity

It could just be you gotta hit a particular percentage. and DF hasn’t devoted any skill points to increasing how much toxicity he can take; I think during the convo the lil 💀 slider bar was a bit over halfway full but not, like, super close to the top, and I don’t think he’s set it up to take any more than baseline. His health bar was a funny color too.