via http://ift.tt/2nY9b8O:After Barring Girls for Leggings, United Airlines Defends Decision:
bedbugsbiting:
revengeoftehblackbirb:
kkludgy:
aka14kgold:
United Airlines barred two women from boarding a flight on Sunday morning and required a child to change into a dress after a gate agent decided the leggings they were wearing were inappropriate.
[…] In a telephone interview from Mexico on Sunday afternoon, Ms. Watts said she noticed two visibly upset teenage girls leaving the gate next to hers. Both were wearing leggings. Ms. Watts went over to the neighboring gate and saw a “frantic” family with two young girls, one of whom was also wearing leggings, engaged in a tense exchange with a gate agent who told them, “I don’t make the rules, I just enforce them.”
Ms. Watts said the girl’s mother told her the two teenagers had just been turned away because the gate agent said their pants were not appropriate travel attire. The woman had a dress in her carry-on bag that the child was able to pull on over her pants, and the family boarded the flight.
[…] Ms. Watts judged that the two women who were barred from boarding were in their “young teens” and the girl who changed into a dress was 10 or 11.
[…] Jonathan Guerin, a spokesman for United, confirmed that two teenage girls were told they could not board a flight from Denver to Minneapolis because their leggings violated the company’s dress code policy for “pass travelers,” a company benefit that allows United employees and their dependents to travel for free on a standby basis.
@alfa-limalimon So to travel on standby as a pass traveler you have to dress up? Do United employees commuting or otherwise flying but not working have to comply with this dress code? I hate workplace dress codes for the record, precisely because of this. One place I worked banned jeans except for Friday, but leggings were ok. Also t-shirts with anything other than jeans were ok (didn’t need to be a blouse). A woman can look very put together in jeans, knit top, and blazer, or an oversized blouse and leggings - but be violating a dress code. Another woman in a T-shirt and maxi skirt would look much more casual, but be complying. Dress codes are written by men and they’re stupid is my point, I think.
I’m fucking coming unhinged about this. I will be wearing leggings to work tomorrow as a One woman protest. And I know for a FACT I’ve worn leggings on a United flight, probably under a long shirt but still. I am so done with this nonsense when you know they probably let dudebros wear all manner of offensive shitty tshirts.
Wh-what? I can’t even wrap my brain around a reason for this. Even if you don’t think that leggings count as pants, they aren’t an undergarment. And why hassle a little girl?
Used to be, women had to wear skirts in First Class. I never encountered this, because I did not fly on an airplane until I was much older, but I remember a speaker mentioning it– in context that she traveled a lot, and had once been offered a free upgrade to First Class that was then rescinded when she did not have a skirt to put on.
I actually used to work in an airline’s private club, so I’m aware of the Friends and Family rules, and the idea that people on those passes are non-revenue-generating, so they may seek excuses to put them off crowded flights. Still, though.
Given the nature of women’s clothing, and how incredibly subjective any evaluation of it is, women’s dress code enforcement is ridiculous, and United also basically shoved their feet straight into their mouth replying to this on Twitter (I watched it unfolding over there, pretty much in realtime, holy shit you assholes).
I went to a series of high-class boarding schools and ran headfirst into the bullshit that is dress codes. My US high school was great; the students came up with the dress code, and it was perfect– things that encompassed both a letter and a spirit, but necessarily pretty open-minded. My UK school was fucking awful– it was literally just at-whim enforcement, and depended on how put-together you looked. I recall one girl getting sent back to change, but another girl borrowing the exact same garments and being allowed to attend class, simply because their bodies were shaped differently and they had different reputations with the instructors. I freaked out at them because I had such a limited space to pack garments, and a limited budget– I could not afford to buy my one pair of new trousers, wear it twice, and then be told it did not pass muster. This was not regarded with sympathy, since I was generally nonconforming…
Later, I worked at a job where we had a literal uniform, and was once censured for showing too much cleavage. Only the intervention of a senior employee, who showed the manager that she had precisely the same number of buttons fastened as I did, saved me from any more severe reprimand. We were wearing the same clothes, we just didn’t have the same body.
Anyway. Ten year old girls in leggings. Christ.

bedbugsbiting:
revengeoftehblackbirb:
kkludgy:
aka14kgold:
United Airlines barred two women from boarding a flight on Sunday morning and required a child to change into a dress after a gate agent decided the leggings they were wearing were inappropriate.
[…] In a telephone interview from Mexico on Sunday afternoon, Ms. Watts said she noticed two visibly upset teenage girls leaving the gate next to hers. Both were wearing leggings. Ms. Watts went over to the neighboring gate and saw a “frantic” family with two young girls, one of whom was also wearing leggings, engaged in a tense exchange with a gate agent who told them, “I don’t make the rules, I just enforce them.”
Ms. Watts said the girl’s mother told her the two teenagers had just been turned away because the gate agent said their pants were not appropriate travel attire. The woman had a dress in her carry-on bag that the child was able to pull on over her pants, and the family boarded the flight.
[…] Ms. Watts judged that the two women who were barred from boarding were in their “young teens” and the girl who changed into a dress was 10 or 11.
[…] Jonathan Guerin, a spokesman for United, confirmed that two teenage girls were told they could not board a flight from Denver to Minneapolis because their leggings violated the company’s dress code policy for “pass travelers,” a company benefit that allows United employees and their dependents to travel for free on a standby basis.
@alfa-limalimon So to travel on standby as a pass traveler you have to dress up? Do United employees commuting or otherwise flying but not working have to comply with this dress code? I hate workplace dress codes for the record, precisely because of this. One place I worked banned jeans except for Friday, but leggings were ok. Also t-shirts with anything other than jeans were ok (didn’t need to be a blouse). A woman can look very put together in jeans, knit top, and blazer, or an oversized blouse and leggings - but be violating a dress code. Another woman in a T-shirt and maxi skirt would look much more casual, but be complying. Dress codes are written by men and they’re stupid is my point, I think.
I’m fucking coming unhinged about this. I will be wearing leggings to work tomorrow as a One woman protest. And I know for a FACT I’ve worn leggings on a United flight, probably under a long shirt but still. I am so done with this nonsense when you know they probably let dudebros wear all manner of offensive shitty tshirts.
Wh-what? I can’t even wrap my brain around a reason for this. Even if you don’t think that leggings count as pants, they aren’t an undergarment. And why hassle a little girl?
Used to be, women had to wear skirts in First Class. I never encountered this, because I did not fly on an airplane until I was much older, but I remember a speaker mentioning it– in context that she traveled a lot, and had once been offered a free upgrade to First Class that was then rescinded when she did not have a skirt to put on.
I actually used to work in an airline’s private club, so I’m aware of the Friends and Family rules, and the idea that people on those passes are non-revenue-generating, so they may seek excuses to put them off crowded flights. Still, though.
Given the nature of women’s clothing, and how incredibly subjective any evaluation of it is, women’s dress code enforcement is ridiculous, and United also basically shoved their feet straight into their mouth replying to this on Twitter (I watched it unfolding over there, pretty much in realtime, holy shit you assholes).
I went to a series of high-class boarding schools and ran headfirst into the bullshit that is dress codes. My US high school was great; the students came up with the dress code, and it was perfect– things that encompassed both a letter and a spirit, but necessarily pretty open-minded. My UK school was fucking awful– it was literally just at-whim enforcement, and depended on how put-together you looked. I recall one girl getting sent back to change, but another girl borrowing the exact same garments and being allowed to attend class, simply because their bodies were shaped differently and they had different reputations with the instructors. I freaked out at them because I had such a limited space to pack garments, and a limited budget– I could not afford to buy my one pair of new trousers, wear it twice, and then be told it did not pass muster. This was not regarded with sympathy, since I was generally nonconforming…
Later, I worked at a job where we had a literal uniform, and was once censured for showing too much cleavage. Only the intervention of a senior employee, who showed the manager that she had precisely the same number of buttons fastened as I did, saved me from any more severe reprimand. We were wearing the same clothes, we just didn’t have the same body.
Anyway. Ten year old girls in leggings. Christ.
