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In the coming days, we’ll be rolling out a code change that limits the total number of fandom, character, relationship, and additional tags that can be added to a work. This limit of 75 tags will apply to both new and existing works, but no tags will be automatically removed from existing works.

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I’ve seen some disappointed reactions about this, and one thing that is brought up frequently is tagging for triggers and warnings. A lot of people are worried the 75 tag limit will prevent them from tagging all variations of trigger tags.

Well, let me introduce you to the amazing world of ✨ metatags ✨

One of the cool things about AO3′s tagging system is that tags are linked together in a way that if a general metatag is used to filter out works, all the tags housed under that metatag (called subtags) also get filtered out!

For example, the tag “angst” is a metatag for “heavy angst”, “light angst”, “angst & fluff”, etc., so if someone excludes the “angst” tag from their search, any fics with those subtags will also be filtered out. So, if the author didn’t directly tag the fic with “angst”, but tagged it with “heavy angst”, excluding “angst” will hide the fic from you!

So if you are worried about not being able to tag every single variation of a trigger, check to see if the tags you’re adding are subtags of a tag you’ve already added to your fic. Click the search bar at the top > tags, then enter the tag, click canonical, and go to the page for that tag. Here’s a link to the page for the “fluff” tag as an example, it shows all the subtags that get filtered out if a user excludes “fluff” from their search! https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Fluff

Bonus protip: the “sexual content” tag is much better than the “smut” tag for filtering out smut if that’s not your cup of tea. It has a crazy amount of subtags.

This is a great insight. Thank you so much for sharing it! And one reason why this is possible on AO3 is because of the Tag Wrangling team. Actual humans look at your tags and can match them up appropriately under parent tags - so even if your tag isn’t listed but it’s clear what it means, it will still be categorized correctly.

Different sites handle their tags differently. The way you tag on twitter isn’t the same as the way you tag on tumblr isn’t the same as the way you tag on AO3. For example, both tumblr and AO3 allow spaces while twitter doesn’t.

75 tags is actually quite a lot and if you read the linked news post you’ll see just how few fics even get close to that number. We might need to start making choices about which tags to include, but for the most part we’ll all be just fine.

You can also, if you feel it’s necessary, add additional content tags in author notes at the start of each fic/chapter.

One of my fics runs the gamut between ridiculous fluff, smut and the agonizing lows of mental health and addiction, sometimes all in the same chapter. Realizing this might be a little more of a rollercoaster than folks signed up for, I started adding specific “this chapter contains:” in an authors note at the top, and then rattle off a list of what might be there, whether it’s mental health related, sex, or just plain hard to deal with life stuff. I honestly thought no one would read it, or it wouldn’t matter much, but I’ve had a lot of comments and messages about it saying the additional heads up was appreciated.

Just a thought, if folks really are worried about 75 tags not being enough!

oh i do this too! with the little mini-warnings at the heads of chapters– I think it’s incredibly useful to readers so they can prepare themselves specifically, and I think I do much better myself about doing warnings for stuff where I’m not sure. My favorite trick is to put broad warnings on the work itself, more specific warnings in the beginning notes relevant to each chapter, and then if I think it’s gonna be something that’s got potential to really upset someone– like once I had a chapter where there was a vivid and startling recollection of childhood abuse– I write a much more specific description in the end notes, and a warning of where in the work it occurrs, because AO3 automatically puts in that link to end notes for you, so if someone wants to know specifically because they’re worried, they can just skip straight to the warning, but if it’s not something a different reader is worried about then they don’t have to scroll past possible spoilers.

I just– I like layers of warnings on things, because I’m not someone who filters by tags very much so I may well totally miss the big warnings on something. More discussion of what’s in the thing helps me prepare, and I feel like the same goes for my readers.

I don’t always expect that from other writers, but I do find it nice. And no, I don’t think 75 tags is too few at all; my ADHD ass can’t parse that many tags at all. (Your picture was not posted)

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Haaa I woke up to one of those emails from AO3 that I love so much, with the list of kudos and some people’s names recurring. Here, let me share my glee, anonymized in case I am one of these people’s guilty pleasures. Note that more than one name recurs. 

[Name1] and a guest left kudos on Truth In Potatoes.

[Name2], [Name1], and a guest left kudos on Let’s Stay In Tonight.[Name1] and [Name3] left kudos on The Night Has Seen Your Mind.[Name2] and [Name1] left kudos on You Ain’t Never Caught A Rabbit.[Name2], [Name1], and [Name3] left kudos on Guts.[Name4], [Name2], [Name1], [Name5], [Name6], [Name7], [Name8], [Name9], [name10], and 4 guests left kudos on Full Of Grace.[Name2], [Name1], and [Name3] left kudos on Straight To The Hard Stuff.[Name2] and [Name1] left kudos on Ora Pro Nobis.[Name2] and [Name1] left kudos on Gettin’ Outta The Killin’ Business.[Name1] left kudos on Nobody’s Business But Yours.[Name11], [Name1], and a guest left kudos on The Space Between.[Name1] left kudos on Put On Earth With That Sole Purpose.[Name2], [Name1], [Name3], and a guest left kudos on Perfectly Adequate.[Name1] left kudos on Cyborgs and Cigarettes.[Name2] and [Name1] left kudos on Even More So.[Name1] and a guest left kudos on Dumb Questions.[Name2], [Name12], [Name1], and 2 guests left kudos on A Face Built For Gettin’ Punched.

This is, primarily, awesome because that’s twelve different people (as well as difficult-to-count conclusively anonymous people!) who spent varying lengths of time, some of them very long, reading my shit in the last 24ish hours. (Again, I don’t know exactly when/how AO3 generates these notifications.)

I don’t recognize any of the handles as people who have left comments, or anyone I’ve seen before, so this is the sum total of my engagement with them– but in case anyone feels like kudos don’t count at all, they totally do. Even if most days I just sort of skim these emails, I usually do look through them more intensely. This is the most analysis I’ve ever really devoted to one, but look– you can get a lot out of it! 

Especially if you know how long those various stories are, and which of them are linked. Name1 clearly went to my author page and looked to see everything I’d written in that fandom, and read them all; some of those works are very short, rather old, and not part of any series. But they still were interested enough to read them. Name2 probably was looking for something more specific, or didn’t click through to the next page of listings. The ones with more kudos are the ones I’ve most recently updated, and thus have recently been linked to. 

Name3 much more clearly is here for one of my main pairings and not the other. 

And all of these are great and I am excited about all of them and it is okay if none of these people ever leaves a comment or recs me to others (of course I’d love them to but that’s not my point here)– the fact that the one-offs read WIPs, as the ones with more numerous notes are, is pretty significant, and the fact that the recurring names spent literally hours sucking down most or all of my output is really really really significant. 

Even if they didn’t love it, it sucked them in, and that’s gotta mean something! :) 

(Keep in mind: The Night Has Seen Your Mind is 105,000 words long, A Face Built For Gettin’ Punched is 189,000 words, convoluted as fuck, and incomplete, Straight To The Hard Stuff is 11,000 words of pure smut, Guts is 6200 words and totally gen, You Ain’t Never Caught A Rabbit is 2300 words about a black female OC – it goes on from there, and almost none of it is under 5k. I’m not a concise writer. This shit is in direct violation of just about everything they ever teach you and anything your common sense would tell you should appeal to audiences, at least in theory. So maybe for all y’all with the nice tight literary shit this doesn’t mean as much, but me– hell, I know that stats like that mean that my shit wrecked someone’s entire day. And that’s a glorious feeling.)