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dragonlady7go here for the actual page, or here for the whole thing that I'm talking about, but this is the latest development in the ongoing troll/flamer saga (btw, he insists he's NOT brian spencer. hm. we'll see.)
Re: here, let me help you.
(Anonymous)
2002-06-06 12:30 (from 206.31.247.10) (link) Delete this is the flamer
Lovely.
Wrong.
I read your post a substantial amount of time before I responded, as I felt the need to decide whether or not to actually take the time to respond. You may think what you like about my identity. I will tell you that your location indicator is in fact right. However, your intuitive random stabs at WHO I am are not quite as correct. It doesn't matter to me either way because as a fan of Annie's and Brian's it won't make any difference to me or probably him for that matter that his name is in your journal. More hits for his site. I am sure he would thank you if he knew.
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Re: here, let me help you.
(Anonymous)
2002-06-06 12:53 (from 216.153.128.116) (link) Delete this is someone else, defending me
So you ARE a fanboy/girl!!
Kudos to you for being able to stomach more self-indulgent musical mediocrity than me.
So piss off, anonymous defender! Even the people you're blindly making livejournal love to don't care anymore. Are Ms. Lin and Mr. Spencer so hard up for fans that they take them foaming at the mouth? It's not like you have to impress them to get an autograph, the lines are plenty short.
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Re: here, let me help you.
dragonlady7
2002-06-06 19:47 (from 172.135.188.197) (link) Delete
I think, oddly, I disagree. I appreciate being defended, but I think we're all on the wrong side here.
Let me explain.
You (I'm talking to my original flamer, here, Mr. I Insist That I Remain Anonymous, not the person I'm directly replying to, who's also anonymous but at least not abusing me) have made absolutely no progress in getting your point across, and in fact have yet to make a point at all, which is starting to give me some ideas. I'm starting to suspect, because of your shiftiness and self-contradiction when asked to identify yourself, that you're simply a troll, and you're using my journal for some sick way of getting at Annie.
No really, fellas. Think about it. You (again to Mr. Insistently Anonymous) haven't really defended her, just said that she's right and I'm wrong and I'm a dumbass bogus bitch, and you haven't backed any of it up. That's troll talk.
You may still claim that you were only defending her, in your incompetent way, but think of the consequences: I, in concern over this delayed attack, contacted her about it-- thereby stirring up the issue for her as well and inflicting more trauma on her dear delicate self, since the first time was oh so traumatic for her. There's one.
Two: you've generated a whole bunch of hostility towards this Brian character who you resemble but claim not to be. If you are not, in fact, him, then you've made him a whole bunch of enemies. That's really not fair to him, not at all. You're sick!
I would never be so underhanded if I had a vendetta against someone-- I would tell them to their face, not stir up trouble behind their backs! As I think this post is demonstration of. (One could argue that I should have emailed her privately, but at the time I knew she read it, and I didn't actually want to start an email war-- I posted it for the benefit of friends who read this, asking their opinion, and figured that if she wanted to discuss it, she could. That's more how I work. If she hadn't responded, I would eventually have probably emailed her to let her know what I thought. I'm pretty straightforward.)
I think you're sick, and evil. And the biggest fucking coward I've ever met. Using someone's god damn personal journal to get at somebody you have a problem with-- tell her to her god damn face! She's a reasonable person, she'll talk to you-- I know this, firsthand! I've had problems with her, I've talked them out! Really! She's kind of abrasive, but if you know her, she's not so bad. I feel bad now that I suspected her of involving you in this, and said mean things about her for that. And I resent you for manipulating me like that. That was underhanded and disgusting. Take care of your own damn business! If you want to stalk her and cause problems for her, flame her yourself! I'm not falling for it anymore. She and I have already discussed all this like adults, and we're on perfectly cordial terms. I'm not letting you stir up things just to hurt her-- I still believe that she needs criticism when she's done wrong, but she does NOT need to be harassed on account of no-good third-party stalkers. Get a fucking life, and learn to confront your problems yourself. Leave me out of your mentally-ill schemings.
Re: here, let me help you.
(Anonymous)
2002-06-06 12:30 (from 206.31.247.10) (link) Delete this is the flamer
Lovely.
Wrong.
I read your post a substantial amount of time before I responded, as I felt the need to decide whether or not to actually take the time to respond. You may think what you like about my identity. I will tell you that your location indicator is in fact right. However, your intuitive random stabs at WHO I am are not quite as correct. It doesn't matter to me either way because as a fan of Annie's and Brian's it won't make any difference to me or probably him for that matter that his name is in your journal. More hits for his site. I am sure he would thank you if he knew.
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Re: here, let me help you.
(Anonymous)
2002-06-06 12:53 (from 216.153.128.116) (link) Delete this is someone else, defending me
So you ARE a fanboy/girl!!
Kudos to you for being able to stomach more self-indulgent musical mediocrity than me.
So piss off, anonymous defender! Even the people you're blindly making livejournal love to don't care anymore. Are Ms. Lin and Mr. Spencer so hard up for fans that they take them foaming at the mouth? It's not like you have to impress them to get an autograph, the lines are plenty short.
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Re: here, let me help you.
dragonlady7
2002-06-06 19:47 (from 172.135.188.197) (link) Delete
I think, oddly, I disagree. I appreciate being defended, but I think we're all on the wrong side here.
Let me explain.
You (I'm talking to my original flamer, here, Mr. I Insist That I Remain Anonymous, not the person I'm directly replying to, who's also anonymous but at least not abusing me) have made absolutely no progress in getting your point across, and in fact have yet to make a point at all, which is starting to give me some ideas. I'm starting to suspect, because of your shiftiness and self-contradiction when asked to identify yourself, that you're simply a troll, and you're using my journal for some sick way of getting at Annie.
No really, fellas. Think about it. You (again to Mr. Insistently Anonymous) haven't really defended her, just said that she's right and I'm wrong and I'm a dumbass bogus bitch, and you haven't backed any of it up. That's troll talk.
You may still claim that you were only defending her, in your incompetent way, but think of the consequences: I, in concern over this delayed attack, contacted her about it-- thereby stirring up the issue for her as well and inflicting more trauma on her dear delicate self, since the first time was oh so traumatic for her. There's one.
Two: you've generated a whole bunch of hostility towards this Brian character who you resemble but claim not to be. If you are not, in fact, him, then you've made him a whole bunch of enemies. That's really not fair to him, not at all. You're sick!
I would never be so underhanded if I had a vendetta against someone-- I would tell them to their face, not stir up trouble behind their backs! As I think this post is demonstration of. (One could argue that I should have emailed her privately, but at the time I knew she read it, and I didn't actually want to start an email war-- I posted it for the benefit of friends who read this, asking their opinion, and figured that if she wanted to discuss it, she could. That's more how I work. If she hadn't responded, I would eventually have probably emailed her to let her know what I thought. I'm pretty straightforward.)
I think you're sick, and evil. And the biggest fucking coward I've ever met. Using someone's god damn personal journal to get at somebody you have a problem with-- tell her to her god damn face! She's a reasonable person, she'll talk to you-- I know this, firsthand! I've had problems with her, I've talked them out! Really! She's kind of abrasive, but if you know her, she's not so bad. I feel bad now that I suspected her of involving you in this, and said mean things about her for that. And I resent you for manipulating me like that. That was underhanded and disgusting. Take care of your own damn business! If you want to stalk her and cause problems for her, flame her yourself! I'm not falling for it anymore. She and I have already discussed all this like adults, and we're on perfectly cordial terms. I'm not letting you stir up things just to hurt her-- I still believe that she needs criticism when she's done wrong, but she does NOT need to be harassed on account of no-good third-party stalkers. Get a fucking life, and learn to confront your problems yourself. Leave me out of your mentally-ill schemings.
