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I’m so glad we have different and diverse latino characters inside the rebellion. Like even though Cassian and Poe are generations apart. Disney and SW could have given us the same sort of idealism in both rebels. Instead we have the same thread of “there is light and there is dark, and we must strive to keep hope alive” but in different vehicles.
Poe and Cassian both grew up with the Rebellion on their backs. Poe is canonically one of the finest Rebel pilots in current time (squad leader and known enough to be captured and tortured by Ren and The First Order) and Cassian is an Intelligence Officer (and I’m assuming a high ranking one given the sensitivity of the mission.) But they approach their duties so differently.
Poe taking Finn to Leia and saying hey he has information. He defected and helped me out and I think we could use him.
Vs.
Cassian with Jyn who is a means to an end, who in normal circumstances (not against a freaking rumored planet destroying weapon) would not trust her at all beyond the job.
Even comparing their first scenes!! Poe with BB8 telling the droid to go and keep the plans and they’ll meet again (the clear affection and priorities to the rebellion on keeping the info safe) and then getting captured and the “do i go first do you?” Mouthing off scene.
Cassian in the same position, getting compromised by stormtroopers with his source of info and shooting him while pulling the wool over the dude to calm him down before escaping???
What a contrast. And yet, Cassian still had his priorities in order. The information leak wouldn’t survive beyond him. He got what he needed for the good of the rebel alliance by doing something unsavory. And it was his first scene!! A purposeful set up to introduce him and the story as a more serious wartime story of rebellion without giving up on that hope that SW keeps pushing.
Also!!! One with an accent and the other without!!!!
Even their droids! Yeah, they’re both pilots and depend on their droids to make navigation easier but ohmygod. BB8 having a custom paint job and whizzing by to greet Poe when they reunite versus K2SO, a reprogrammed imperial droid who looks just like any other (and i mean they highlighted that with Jyn shooting one in Jedha) who has a sort of snarky affection is deep but not really ‘shown’ relationship with Cassian.
I’m just really grateful to whoever is making these casting decisions. Hopefully we get some latinx women next.
(Next up: Leia, Chirrut and their homes destroyed without properly being grieved. And romance?)
This is so important honestly: it’s like the whole Brooklyn 99 thing, where one of the blessings of having more than one latinx character or one black character, is that each one doesn’t have to represent all things to all people of that ethnicity.
Cassian and Poe are both great characters and good people fighting for what they believe in, but they’re in such different places in their lives and come from such different backgrounds, and honestly to have them grouped together into the “hot latino pilots in Star Wars ayyy” thing is so baffling to me – the differences are fascinating and important.
(Plus, incidentally, this is why I don’t think Cassian would be a particular hero of Poe’s growing up – just because they’re both latinx, doesn’t mean Poe has to look up to him. Clearly he’d respect the sacrifice and the difficult choices Cassian had to make, but their personalities and ideals are just fundamentally distinct – there’s a reason why we’ve got Poe canonically idolizing his mother, the daring pilot, his father the “bravest and kindest soldier” he’s ever known, and Leia, who represents the ideals of the New Republic and justice and democracy, etc. Those are things Poe’s been shown to value – doing what you have to do and sacrificing your morality in the name of saving the galaxy hasn’t really been part of his story, yet.
I think as Poe’s journey progresses, maybe, and the Resistance faces a more difficult time when more questionable choices have to be made in the name of the greater good, that’s when he might have a need for the story of Cassian Andor. )
#sorry to hijack your post op#it’s a great post!#i just felt like rambling a little too#poe dameron#cassian andor#tfa#(also not to get too much into these weeds but)#rogue one#cassian is played by a mexican actor and poe is played by an immigrant kid#when we talk about their accents being different and their stories being different#their stories are even somewhat reflective of that as well#cassian is fighting corruption and supremacy and has been involved in a street level rrevolution since childhood#poe dameron is like – a kid who grew up with stability and hope and the expectations of parents who fought to give him all of that#and is now finding it threatened from without and within#the latin american experience vs the latin american immigrant experience have commonalities but are not the same EXACTLY#so when we’re talking about one having a latin accent and the other not that’s not so much a flaw w/r/t poe#it’s a symbol of how different their stories are via @morethanonepage
morethanonepage:
anja-mittags:
I’m so glad we have different and diverse latino characters inside the rebellion. Like even though Cassian and Poe are generations apart. Disney and SW could have given us the same sort of idealism in both rebels. Instead we have the same thread of “there is light and there is dark, and we must strive to keep hope alive” but in different vehicles.
Poe and Cassian both grew up with the Rebellion on their backs. Poe is canonically one of the finest Rebel pilots in current time (squad leader and known enough to be captured and tortured by Ren and The First Order) and Cassian is an Intelligence Officer (and I’m assuming a high ranking one given the sensitivity of the mission.) But they approach their duties so differently.
Poe taking Finn to Leia and saying hey he has information. He defected and helped me out and I think we could use him.
Vs.
Cassian with Jyn who is a means to an end, who in normal circumstances (not against a freaking rumored planet destroying weapon) would not trust her at all beyond the job.
Even comparing their first scenes!! Poe with BB8 telling the droid to go and keep the plans and they’ll meet again (the clear affection and priorities to the rebellion on keeping the info safe) and then getting captured and the “do i go first do you?” Mouthing off scene.
Cassian in the same position, getting compromised by stormtroopers with his source of info and shooting him while pulling the wool over the dude to calm him down before escaping???
What a contrast. And yet, Cassian still had his priorities in order. The information leak wouldn’t survive beyond him. He got what he needed for the good of the rebel alliance by doing something unsavory. And it was his first scene!! A purposeful set up to introduce him and the story as a more serious wartime story of rebellion without giving up on that hope that SW keeps pushing.
Also!!! One with an accent and the other without!!!!
Even their droids! Yeah, they’re both pilots and depend on their droids to make navigation easier but ohmygod. BB8 having a custom paint job and whizzing by to greet Poe when they reunite versus K2SO, a reprogrammed imperial droid who looks just like any other (and i mean they highlighted that with Jyn shooting one in Jedha) who has a sort of snarky affection is deep but not really ‘shown’ relationship with Cassian.
I’m just really grateful to whoever is making these casting decisions. Hopefully we get some latinx women next.
(Next up: Leia, Chirrut and their homes destroyed without properly being grieved. And romance?)
This is so important honestly: it’s like the whole Brooklyn 99 thing, where one of the blessings of having more than one latinx character or one black character, is that each one doesn’t have to represent all things to all people of that ethnicity.
Cassian and Poe are both great characters and good people fighting for what they believe in, but they’re in such different places in their lives and come from such different backgrounds, and honestly to have them grouped together into the “hot latino pilots in Star Wars ayyy” thing is so baffling to me – the differences are fascinating and important.
(Plus, incidentally, this is why I don’t think Cassian would be a particular hero of Poe’s growing up – just because they’re both latinx, doesn’t mean Poe has to look up to him. Clearly he’d respect the sacrifice and the difficult choices Cassian had to make, but their personalities and ideals are just fundamentally distinct – there’s a reason why we’ve got Poe canonically idolizing his mother, the daring pilot, his father the “bravest and kindest soldier” he’s ever known, and Leia, who represents the ideals of the New Republic and justice and democracy, etc. Those are things Poe’s been shown to value – doing what you have to do and sacrificing your morality in the name of saving the galaxy hasn’t really been part of his story, yet.
I think as Poe’s journey progresses, maybe, and the Resistance faces a more difficult time when more questionable choices have to be made in the name of the greater good, that’s when he might have a need for the story of Cassian Andor. )
#sorry to hijack your post op#it’s a great post!#i just felt like rambling a little too#poe dameron#cassian andor#tfa#(also not to get too much into these weeds but)#rogue one#cassian is played by a mexican actor and poe is played by an immigrant kid#when we talk about their accents being different and their stories being different#their stories are even somewhat reflective of that as well#cassian is fighting corruption and supremacy and has been involved in a street level rrevolution since childhood#poe dameron is like – a kid who grew up with stability and hope and the expectations of parents who fought to give him all of that#and is now finding it threatened from without and within#the latin american experience vs the latin american immigrant experience have commonalities but are not the same EXACTLY#so when we’re talking about one having a latin accent and the other not that’s not so much a flaw w/r/t poe#it’s a symbol of how different their stories are via @morethanonepage
