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which yes is brilliant, love it, the witcher, witcher 2

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I think quite often of the optional little dialogue tree that one can get about Yaevinn in TW2 with an imported save if one sides with Iorveth, and particularly of just how Iorveth describes Yaevinn

The dialogue prompt “I once knew another Scoia'tael - Yaevinn.” will lead to the following exchange:

GERALT: I once met another Scoia'tael leader.

IORVETH: Yaevinn. I knew him. He had beautiful dreams and desperately wanted me to share them. Asked the same of you, I heard.

GERALT: You know a lot about me.

IORVETH: I try to know as much as I can - about everyone.

They’ll elaborate a little further in this dialogue about how they both agree with Yaevinn’s reasons and the fact that Yaevinn “saw combat and killing as poetry” which Iorveth deems unrealistic because “war is prose, with no place for beauty” (how poetic).

But the interesting part to me is the statement that Yaevinn had “beautiful dreams” and how he was this grand idealist, because this seems to be in contradiction with Yaevinn’s characterisation. In his novel appearance, he argues against Toruviel’s idealism as he proposes shooting the unarmed messenger. In TW1, Geralt refers to him in his journal as being “ disillusioned”, as well as being “a cynic and a pragmatist”, neither of which seem to hold with Iorveth’s account. While this can be credited to the fact that it’s possible that Iorveth’s past-tense statement of “I knew him” means that he hasn’t seen Yaevinn in some time rather than, or at least in addition to, the implied death. He has perhaps not seen him since the Second Northern War, where they were both in the Vrihedd brigade, and Yaevinn could have grown more cynical since the Scoia'tael were betrayed by Dol Blathanna, his earliest characterisation is that of the novel canon, and he does not present a particular idealism that would reflect the notion that he is a dreamer.

It can be taken as a choice of characterisation, because for all that Yaevinn is disillusioned, he does have his hopes and desires for the future and his plans at Vizima, just as Iorveth has his hopes for Saskia and Vergen. He has these dreams, even if he tenders them close to his chest and puts the practical aspects first before he allows himself to have this hope. And I think that is a really interesting interpretation, to have this juxtaposition, that he can be both disillusioned and a dreamer, and that he chose a scant few, Iorveth, and then Geralt, to share in those precious dreams.

The notion of Yaevinn having these “beautiful dreams” is also very pertinent to his TW1 characterisation, I think, because there are optional dialogues in which Yaevinn tells the accounts of how he once lived among humans and believed in assimilation, that the humans would accept the elves if given enough time, only to be persecuted and harassed at length until he finally accepted that there was no place for him there, that there could be no assimilation, only annihilation. And even though he knows it is a hopeless fight, he still proceeds onward. He knows his people are dying, and he knows that if they do not act quickly, they will be well and truly doomed to extinction, but he is still trying to fight. That is, in and of itself, an expression of a dream for a better future, even if he thinks it hopeless, or, as Iorveth criticises, unrealistic.

Serious character analysis aside, I think that the absolute funniest interpretation of this dialogue is that it is not to be taken literally about Yaevinn’s idealism or lack thereof, but rather as a euphemism – taking “beautiful dreams” as a euphemism for queer romantic interest; hence “he had beautiful dreams and desperately wanted me to share them” is something like “he likes men and asked me to be his lover”, “I hear he asked the same of you” thenceforth meaning something like “were you also his lover/do you also like men” (and the response “you know a lot about me” therefore indicating that he is correct in his judgement). There’s like a whole rebellion going on but Iorveth is just checking out his options, y'know. (Your picture was not posted)

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