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I mean, I can just…ask somebody at work, if you want. Don’t really need to have a reason other than “a friend was curious.” A couple of my best friends from my old office are NCOs who have been through Airmen Leadership School and all that noise, so they ought to be pretty clear on the USAF interpretation of that aspect of the UCMJ, at least. Your story will work regardless, but if you want the data point, I’ll try to get it.
If you can casually bring it up without sounding like a weirdo, I’d love more data points. I’m also curious as to how someone would be seen if they’d been an NCO and went to officer training. Like, would they get a lot of shit for it? But I know people do, it’s just not common. (I get that civilians sort of don’t grok the divide between enlisted and officers, and just sort of think that privates could naturally get promoted all the way up to generals if they were just Motivated enough, because that’s a reasonable assumption if you have no idea how it really works. But that’s super not how it works, and plenty of people serve long distinguished careers in the armed forces as enlisted personnel, and it’s perfectly respectable and the promotions work basically the same way, you just start and end in a different place.)
I’m sure I can casually broach it with my sister too, it’s just hard to get ahold of her, especially now that she’s not only Supermom but also working 40 hours a week. (How’s that going, I asked her, as we raided a Wal-Mart at dawn on Christmas Eve Eve for stocking stuffers. She grimly hauled the minivan about and said, uh, it’s going, but I dunno how long it can keep going.)
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(Also, you wanna start some salty enlisted folks on a rant, ask ‘em why the USAF doesn’t have warrant officers, especially in this new world of remotely piloted aircraft, etc. Guaranteed entertainment.)
WTF why DOESN’T the USAF have warrants?!?!?! I just– assumed they– were a thing!!! Why wouldn’t they be?? The Air Force only split off from the Army like ten minutes ago ok 70 years ago why wouldn’t they keep the structure???
Dad loved being a warrant because nobody fucks with them. They’re not high up enough to be Political, but they’re high up enough that they know what’s up, and they’re rare enough that they stick together, and if you fucks with the warrants, your paychecks will go missing until the end of time and there’ll be Nothing That Can Be Done unless you figure out how to magically appease the Warrant Officers. He was like, a troublemaking little eldritch horror for the last five or so years of his very long career, and he was just in his glory the whole time. The enlisted guys thought he was hilarious and the officers just sort of tried to steer clear of him.
(And, at retirement, he got a major’s pension, so in the end, he wasn’t all that bitter.)
(Also, at retirement, he got a very sweet send-off from a general who didn’t know him at all, but knew this was his very last exercise, and so had bothered to look at his file and find out who he was and why he was still around, and so gave him a very kind impromptu little speech at the general assembly thing, whatever that was called [he started off by asking the crowd how many of them had been born before 1967, because that was the year Dad got his 2LT commission; most of them hadn’t been born yet], and then they let Dad fire off all the about-to-expire machine gun ammunition at the range for the sheer hell of it. Not a bad send-off at all.)
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sugarspiceandcursewords replied to your post “sugarspiceandcursewords replied to your post “whoa goddamn, my…”
I mean, I can just…ask somebody at work, if you want. Don’t really need to have a reason other than “a friend was curious.” A couple of my best friends from my old office are NCOs who have been through Airmen Leadership School and all that noise, so they ought to be pretty clear on the USAF interpretation of that aspect of the UCMJ, at least. Your story will work regardless, but if you want the data point, I’ll try to get it.
If you can casually bring it up without sounding like a weirdo, I’d love more data points. I’m also curious as to how someone would be seen if they’d been an NCO and went to officer training. Like, would they get a lot of shit for it? But I know people do, it’s just not common. (I get that civilians sort of don’t grok the divide between enlisted and officers, and just sort of think that privates could naturally get promoted all the way up to generals if they were just Motivated enough, because that’s a reasonable assumption if you have no idea how it really works. But that’s super not how it works, and plenty of people serve long distinguished careers in the armed forces as enlisted personnel, and it’s perfectly respectable and the promotions work basically the same way, you just start and end in a different place.)
I’m sure I can casually broach it with my sister too, it’s just hard to get ahold of her, especially now that she’s not only Supermom but also working 40 hours a week. (How’s that going, I asked her, as we raided a Wal-Mart at dawn on Christmas Eve Eve for stocking stuffers. She grimly hauled the minivan about and said, uh, it’s going, but I dunno how long it can keep going.)
sugarspiceandcursewords replied to your post “sugarspiceandcursewords replied to your post “whoa goddamn, my…”
(Also, you wanna start some salty enlisted folks on a rant, ask ‘em why the USAF doesn’t have warrant officers, especially in this new world of remotely piloted aircraft, etc. Guaranteed entertainment.)
WTF why DOESN’T the USAF have warrants?!?!?! I just– assumed they– were a thing!!! Why wouldn’t they be?? The Air Force only split off from the Army like ten minutes ago ok 70 years ago why wouldn’t they keep the structure???
Dad loved being a warrant because nobody fucks with them. They’re not high up enough to be Political, but they’re high up enough that they know what’s up, and they’re rare enough that they stick together, and if you fucks with the warrants, your paychecks will go missing until the end of time and there’ll be Nothing That Can Be Done unless you figure out how to magically appease the Warrant Officers. He was like, a troublemaking little eldritch horror for the last five or so years of his very long career, and he was just in his glory the whole time. The enlisted guys thought he was hilarious and the officers just sort of tried to steer clear of him.
(And, at retirement, he got a major’s pension, so in the end, he wasn’t all that bitter.)
(Also, at retirement, he got a very sweet send-off from a general who didn’t know him at all, but knew this was his very last exercise, and so had bothered to look at his file and find out who he was and why he was still around, and so gave him a very kind impromptu little speech at the general assembly thing, whatever that was called [he started off by asking the crowd how many of them had been born before 1967, because that was the year Dad got his 2LT commission; most of them hadn’t been born yet], and then they let Dad fire off all the about-to-expire machine gun ammunition at the range for the sheer hell of it. Not a bad send-off at all.)
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