lazaefair replied to your post “Again,
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lazaefair replied to your post “Again, I’m not going to publish an anon ask that’s mostly just…”
Oh good, so they’ve been sending those asks to someone other than me, too. I’m a little jealous, I didn’t get the distinction of Chief Racist in their tirade against me.
Oh, I made it into a title, they were just saying it was all my fault and I was the source of it.
Like, I get that it would be super gross to dismiss people’s reasonable complaints of racism, but I honestly haven’t seen any? Not major ones? Minor stuff, which I’ve agreed with, but overall the shit people have hated about the movie was largely not primarily race-related?
I haven’t looked deliberately for critiques, though, and it’s perfectly possible that I wouldn’t have picked up on something, but there are so many people whose opinions I respect who absolutely would not miss something major pertaining to that issue, and that’s part of the reason I have the follow list I do, to make sure I would have seen something like that? I mean, at least to the point that I would have been aware of it to be making a point of going against it and dismissing it and trying to silence it by expressing my contrary opinion. Which was the apparent argument. (Leaving aside the question of how I, a sub-1k-follower blog on the tunglr dot com, expressing an opinion on my interweb blog, would actually have any kind of genuine silencing affect on a contrary opinion?)
I don’t devote a ton of time to haters, per se, seeking out contrary opinions to get mad about, and such. Some people really will bend themselves into knots finding something to get mad about, that’s just a thing, and in many cases that’s how that person’s mind works, it’s not like they’re doing it maliciously. I do have a few people like that I keep tabs on because if they get bent out of shape about something there’s often an underlying real issue that’s super important to be aware of. I get it.
Other times, it’s a perfectly reasonable thing that everyone else is just brushing off, that is genuinely Problematic and actually hurtful.
But a while back a group of people went hardcore after a couple of FinnPoe writers, and as far as I could tell went the absolute hardest after the most dedicated fluff writers, and it really silenced a big chunk of the FinnPoe fluff fandom. Which sucks, because (among other things) then people look at stats and get super upset that there are so many more Kylux than FinnPoe fics, and–
well, it comes down to what anon’s argument seems to have been in that last ask, which is that media shouldn’t have representation because it’s going to be racist.
So if you trace all of it back to that source, that’s the fundamental premise of it, and…
no, I can’t really abide that.
So I can’t really engage in any further productive discussion about it.
So, block, and move on. I love a good-faith debate, but #1 good-faith debates don’t open asks with “Bitch” and close with “fuck you”, and #2 I can’t accept the fundamental premise, which is that daring to include characters of color in my work makes me racist, and praising works that include characters of color is my racist way of silencing viewers who would criticize it. There can’t really be an agreement there, so I can’t continue a debate in good faith.
(I am terrified that I’m getting it wrong. I am. I reread some of my stuff and cringe, because I know how I meant it, and mostly readers were there with me, but yeah, I could do better– given infinite time and attention, you can always do better. But either I stop trying or I move on, and moving on is what I’m trying to do. You just have to believe that you’re telling a good story and doing more good than harm while you’re learning. I have to believe that, or I wouldn’t have anything.)
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lazaefair replied to your post “Again, I’m not going to publish an anon ask that’s mostly just…”
Oh good, so they’ve been sending those asks to someone other than me, too. I’m a little jealous, I didn’t get the distinction of Chief Racist in their tirade against me.
Oh, I made it into a title, they were just saying it was all my fault and I was the source of it.
Like, I get that it would be super gross to dismiss people’s reasonable complaints of racism, but I honestly haven’t seen any? Not major ones? Minor stuff, which I’ve agreed with, but overall the shit people have hated about the movie was largely not primarily race-related?
I haven’t looked deliberately for critiques, though, and it’s perfectly possible that I wouldn’t have picked up on something, but there are so many people whose opinions I respect who absolutely would not miss something major pertaining to that issue, and that’s part of the reason I have the follow list I do, to make sure I would have seen something like that? I mean, at least to the point that I would have been aware of it to be making a point of going against it and dismissing it and trying to silence it by expressing my contrary opinion. Which was the apparent argument. (Leaving aside the question of how I, a sub-1k-follower blog on the tunglr dot com, expressing an opinion on my interweb blog, would actually have any kind of genuine silencing affect on a contrary opinion?)
I don’t devote a ton of time to haters, per se, seeking out contrary opinions to get mad about, and such. Some people really will bend themselves into knots finding something to get mad about, that’s just a thing, and in many cases that’s how that person’s mind works, it’s not like they’re doing it maliciously. I do have a few people like that I keep tabs on because if they get bent out of shape about something there’s often an underlying real issue that’s super important to be aware of. I get it.
Other times, it’s a perfectly reasonable thing that everyone else is just brushing off, that is genuinely Problematic and actually hurtful.
But a while back a group of people went hardcore after a couple of FinnPoe writers, and as far as I could tell went the absolute hardest after the most dedicated fluff writers, and it really silenced a big chunk of the FinnPoe fluff fandom. Which sucks, because (among other things) then people look at stats and get super upset that there are so many more Kylux than FinnPoe fics, and–
well, it comes down to what anon’s argument seems to have been in that last ask, which is that media shouldn’t have representation because it’s going to be racist.
So if you trace all of it back to that source, that’s the fundamental premise of it, and…
no, I can’t really abide that.
So I can’t really engage in any further productive discussion about it.
So, block, and move on. I love a good-faith debate, but #1 good-faith debates don’t open asks with “Bitch” and close with “fuck you”, and #2 I can’t accept the fundamental premise, which is that daring to include characters of color in my work makes me racist, and praising works that include characters of color is my racist way of silencing viewers who would criticize it. There can’t really be an agreement there, so I can’t continue a debate in good faith.
(I am terrified that I’m getting it wrong. I am. I reread some of my stuff and cringe, because I know how I meant it, and mostly readers were there with me, but yeah, I could do better– given infinite time and attention, you can always do better. But either I stop trying or I move on, and moving on is what I’m trying to do. You just have to believe that you’re telling a good story and doing more good than harm while you’re learning. I have to believe that, or I wouldn’t have anything.)
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