NY: TURN YOUR BALLOT OVER
Nov. 4th, 2017 03:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
dragonlady7via http://ift.tt/2hb1ZnT:
nellachronism:
shi1498912:
resistdrumpf:
NY State residents, please be aware that on Election Day (11/7), the BACK of the ballot will have a referendum to vote on convening a NY Constitutional Convention. Placing it on the back of the ballot was a DELIBERATE move.
If it passes, it could be a disaster for ALL CURRENT AND FORMER NY State (including state, city, county, town, village and school district) public employees (police officers, firefighters, corrections officers, teachers, sanitation workers, teaching aides, librarians, bus drivers, lunch aides, highway workers, board of elections, etc.) who could stand to lose a great deal, including part or all of their pensions or medical benefits (even those who have already retired), that they were promised in return for their commitment to their careers in public service.
If you love anyone that is currently, or has ever been a NY public employee, please TURN YOUR BALLOT OVER and vote “NO”.
SIGNAL BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!!!!
Guys really, this would be a shit show, vote no.
However, Proposition 3 actually looks like it would help rural towns and villages, so feel free to vote yes on that. Unless someone has some good opinions about no?
I don’t have a good opinion on Proposition 2. Sorry!
Actually– OK, OP is right about literally one thing, which is that you gotta turn the ballot over, but literally the rest of that post is hysteria. (Sorry, I don’t know anything else about you OP, but there’s just… no basis to any of the rest of that? There was in fact a lawsuit deciding where the proposition would be placed on the ballot, and it was dismissed. It’s not A DELIBERATE MOVE to FUCK US ALL, thanks. I don’t think all-caps shrieking is particularly helpful in this matter, but some information would be good.)
So. Here is a great article about the NY Constitutional Convention entitled What’s True And What’s Not, which is an excellent primer. The article itself advances neither cause; it’s from politico. I myself am an undecided voter, and am spending this weekend researching.
I’m leaning toward Yes, largely because it would be a huge pain in the ass for literally all of the entrenched powers, it turns out, if you read that article. And it would not be nearly as expensive as the dread-mongers would have you believe. (The article also unpicks the completely untrue source of the price tag scaremongers are bandying around in reputable news sources.)
(Also it’s highly likely that the current deadlock in the legislature would translate to a Democratic/progressive majority in the convention, meaning the unions’ fears of recent progressive gains being overturned are, while genuine, unlikely to be proven true. So that’s also interesting. Because, see, NYS is heavily gerrymandered to be 50/50 Dem/Republican, but the presence of “at-large” reps means that the legit population-based Democratic majority would at last have their say. Hmmmm.)
nellachronism:
shi1498912:
resistdrumpf:
NY State residents, please be aware that on Election Day (11/7), the BACK of the ballot will have a referendum to vote on convening a NY Constitutional Convention. Placing it on the back of the ballot was a DELIBERATE move.
If it passes, it could be a disaster for ALL CURRENT AND FORMER NY State (including state, city, county, town, village and school district) public employees (police officers, firefighters, corrections officers, teachers, sanitation workers, teaching aides, librarians, bus drivers, lunch aides, highway workers, board of elections, etc.) who could stand to lose a great deal, including part or all of their pensions or medical benefits (even those who have already retired), that they were promised in return for their commitment to their careers in public service.
If you love anyone that is currently, or has ever been a NY public employee, please TURN YOUR BALLOT OVER and vote “NO”.
SIGNAL BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!!!!
Guys really, this would be a shit show, vote no.
However, Proposition 3 actually looks like it would help rural towns and villages, so feel free to vote yes on that. Unless someone has some good opinions about no?
I don’t have a good opinion on Proposition 2. Sorry!
Actually– OK, OP is right about literally one thing, which is that you gotta turn the ballot over, but literally the rest of that post is hysteria. (Sorry, I don’t know anything else about you OP, but there’s just… no basis to any of the rest of that? There was in fact a lawsuit deciding where the proposition would be placed on the ballot, and it was dismissed. It’s not A DELIBERATE MOVE to FUCK US ALL, thanks. I don’t think all-caps shrieking is particularly helpful in this matter, but some information would be good.)
So. Here is a great article about the NY Constitutional Convention entitled What’s True And What’s Not, which is an excellent primer. The article itself advances neither cause; it’s from politico. I myself am an undecided voter, and am spending this weekend researching.
I’m leaning toward Yes, largely because it would be a huge pain in the ass for literally all of the entrenched powers, it turns out, if you read that article. And it would not be nearly as expensive as the dread-mongers would have you believe. (The article also unpicks the completely untrue source of the price tag scaremongers are bandying around in reputable news sources.)
(Also it’s highly likely that the current deadlock in the legislature would translate to a Democratic/progressive majority in the convention, meaning the unions’ fears of recent progressive gains being overturned are, while genuine, unlikely to be proven true. So that’s also interesting. Because, see, NYS is heavily gerrymandered to be 50/50 Dem/Republican, but the presence of “at-large” reps means that the legit population-based Democratic majority would at last have their say. Hmmmm.)
