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dragonlady7via http://ift.tt/1RCqfbv:J.J. Abrams explains Kylo Ren's strange table of ashes in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens':
millicentthecat:
“The backstory is, that that table has the ashes of the enemies he’s killed,” Abrams says. “That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”
JFC…he saves and honors the remains of his enemies on a hexagonal shrine / alter.
@freysdottir and theological side of tumblr, any input on this symbolism? Any parallels with Vikings or Iceni or…idk, something early neolithic?
It is making me think of nothing so much as the Norwegian Black Metal scene of the late 80s and after my weird rant last night I know it sounds like I’m taking the piss, but I’m serious. Look up the band Mayhem, and the frontman “Dead”– he believed he was an undead creature, buried clothes then dug them up to perform in them smelling “ like a grave ”, kept corpses of small animals in plastic bags to smell death to remind himself of it, painted his face to look like a corpse– he invented the “ corpse paint” look in total sincerity– and eventually killed himself, in 1991. He was probably quite deliberately trying to invoke various “pagan” practices but I’ve only read the story with him framed as a pitiable figure. But it is a well-known story: a book called Lords of Chaos details much of the surrounding scene. Sorry to have no quotes or links, I’m on mobile and don’t want to forget this so I’m replying as-is.
millicentthecat:
“The backstory is, that that table has the ashes of the enemies he’s killed,” Abrams says. “That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”
JFC…he saves and honors the remains of his enemies on a hexagonal shrine / alter.
@freysdottir and theological side of tumblr, any input on this symbolism? Any parallels with Vikings or Iceni or…idk, something early neolithic?
It is making me think of nothing so much as the Norwegian Black Metal scene of the late 80s and after my weird rant last night I know it sounds like I’m taking the piss, but I’m serious. Look up the band Mayhem, and the frontman “Dead”– he believed he was an undead creature, buried clothes then dug them up to perform in them smelling “ like a grave ”, kept corpses of small animals in plastic bags to smell death to remind himself of it, painted his face to look like a corpse– he invented the “ corpse paint” look in total sincerity– and eventually killed himself, in 1991. He was probably quite deliberately trying to invoke various “pagan” practices but I’ve only read the story with him framed as a pitiable figure. But it is a well-known story: a book called Lords of Chaos details much of the surrounding scene. Sorry to have no quotes or links, I’m on mobile and don’t want to forget this so I’m replying as-is.
