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justbetsycostumes:
costumersupportdept:
kylux:
i cant believe kylo ren, one of the most and dangerous powerful force users in history, literally canonically wears a crop top and suspenders. this sounds like something out of a fic but no its real.
So I see your hypothesis, and I’mma let you finish, but the Legitimate Real Costumer side of me gets all eyerolly when people woobify intelligently made costumes.
Here I give you the articles in question: the Kylo Ren base layer from TFA, and the Captain America base layer from Civil War.
SO. I know I’ve yelled about this before, in a sort of subdued way, but THIS IS BRILLIANT and SOMEONE IN THE SHOP SHOULD GET A RAISE.
Modular costume with mesh center=actor cool off/extra mobility. Both of these characters GET STUFF DONE in a pretty athletic way at least a couple of times in their respective movies (okay, i’m guessing at Civil War, but from the trailers, I’d guess I’m pretty on the money.)
I would guess that both of the mesh panels in these are made of powermesh, and are there to a) cut down on the bulk of the innermost layer and b) let the actors thermoregulate a little. Powermesh is stretchy and most often used in Ultra Supportive underwear (girdles) and sporting costumes (ice skaters), so it is not a fabric for the weak.
It makes SO MUCH SENSE to use it in this configuration, because now you’re making sure that Shirt stays “tucked in” (probably more likely “attached somewhere to”) Pants, and you don’t get a sudden HEY LOOK AT CAP’S BELLY BUTTON moment as he does some epic move that makes you go back to square one and re-set all the special effects and try the shot again. If you were to just have made it all one thing with no stretch in the middle and sewn it together, sure it would have done the same thing, but MAN, try tucking your shirt into your pants and then fake-throwing a shield or lightsaber fighting someone else. Notice how much of your shirt came untucked? Yup. If that midsection weren’t stretchy and it was sewn to your pants, you’d have severely limited movement.
There may also be some ability in a modular system to allow distressing/weathering of a single piece without having to re-create the whole thing-if Kylo Ren gets shot in the kidney, his arms can be the same arms, they just have to substitute in a singed overlayer.
So yeah, it’s great and hilarious for you to make up all sorts of stories about Emo Crop Top Kylo Ren and Belly Window Malibu Captain America, but holy crap, guys, this is great costume tech and you should be aware of that as well.
THIS OH MY GOD THIS. If you kids could see how layered costumes actually work in film and theatre, you’d nod sagely and say “Well built, shop. Thank you. Now we can avoid much actor whining about physical discomfort.”

justbetsycostumes:
costumersupportdept:
kylux:
i cant believe kylo ren, one of the most and dangerous powerful force users in history, literally canonically wears a crop top and suspenders. this sounds like something out of a fic but no its real.
So I see your hypothesis, and I’mma let you finish, but the Legitimate Real Costumer side of me gets all eyerolly when people woobify intelligently made costumes.
Here I give you the articles in question: the Kylo Ren base layer from TFA, and the Captain America base layer from Civil War.
SO. I know I’ve yelled about this before, in a sort of subdued way, but THIS IS BRILLIANT and SOMEONE IN THE SHOP SHOULD GET A RAISE.
Modular costume with mesh center=actor cool off/extra mobility. Both of these characters GET STUFF DONE in a pretty athletic way at least a couple of times in their respective movies (okay, i’m guessing at Civil War, but from the trailers, I’d guess I’m pretty on the money.)
I would guess that both of the mesh panels in these are made of powermesh, and are there to a) cut down on the bulk of the innermost layer and b) let the actors thermoregulate a little. Powermesh is stretchy and most often used in Ultra Supportive underwear (girdles) and sporting costumes (ice skaters), so it is not a fabric for the weak.
It makes SO MUCH SENSE to use it in this configuration, because now you’re making sure that Shirt stays “tucked in” (probably more likely “attached somewhere to”) Pants, and you don’t get a sudden HEY LOOK AT CAP’S BELLY BUTTON moment as he does some epic move that makes you go back to square one and re-set all the special effects and try the shot again. If you were to just have made it all one thing with no stretch in the middle and sewn it together, sure it would have done the same thing, but MAN, try tucking your shirt into your pants and then fake-throwing a shield or lightsaber fighting someone else. Notice how much of your shirt came untucked? Yup. If that midsection weren’t stretchy and it was sewn to your pants, you’d have severely limited movement.
There may also be some ability in a modular system to allow distressing/weathering of a single piece without having to re-create the whole thing-if Kylo Ren gets shot in the kidney, his arms can be the same arms, they just have to substitute in a singed overlayer.
So yeah, it’s great and hilarious for you to make up all sorts of stories about Emo Crop Top Kylo Ren and Belly Window Malibu Captain America, but holy crap, guys, this is great costume tech and you should be aware of that as well.
THIS OH MY GOD THIS. If you kids could see how layered costumes actually work in film and theatre, you’d nod sagely and say “Well built, shop. Thank you. Now we can avoid much actor whining about physical discomfort.”
