masculinity
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dragonlady7Man good discussion on the nebulous feminism post. I am enjoying that. Man, if I'd written that essay, that'd be great. Maybe I will someday.
Related but different topic:
Customer on phone with other customer service girl. After he hangs up, she's all, "He kept being like, this is so expensive my wife is going to kill me, and I was all, No way does he have a wife, he sounded gayer than any gay guy I even know." And we got into a discussion on whether you could really tell or not.
(For the record, the guy called back and I took the call, and my judgment was that no, he wasn't gay, he was just from Manhattan, and no, there's not much difference really, not aurally anyway.)
"It's that metrosexual thing," one coworker said.
"That is so not my scene," said the shipping coordinator. "I want a man who'll beat the crap out of me."
There was a long pause.
"Er," she said, "who could."
I mean, I can see her point, sure. There's something about a big rugged masculine manly man who can sling you over his shoulder or whatever. Though the fact that I'm the size I am means that for that to work I'd need a 300-pound gorilla, and you know, I think, you know, that's OK, I don't really, yeah.
Obviously that's not my type.
(Though I've noticed in my novels a lot of times the hero is a big burly dude, or at least tall. I think my next hero is going to be short, or at least skinny. zomg time to squee over nicholas from Death of the Necromancer again, guys, and the scene where he's being escorted under guard and looks around and all the guards are like twice his size and heavily armed and he makes a joke to them about it... and then takes their lieutenant hostage once they've stopped paying attention to him)
Me, I'm sitting here inwardly squeeing over how friggincute it is when Z refers to Chita as "our furbaby". I know he's being mostly ironic but I think it's hilarious. Also last night while he was shopping online for sheets he said "Sometimes I wish I was gay so I could order towels monogrammed 'His' and 'His'."
Yeah, I know there's not much deep gender theory in this post but that's sort of my life at the moment. If there's something deep it's probably buried.
Related but different topic:
Customer on phone with other customer service girl. After he hangs up, she's all, "He kept being like, this is so expensive my wife is going to kill me, and I was all, No way does he have a wife, he sounded gayer than any gay guy I even know." And we got into a discussion on whether you could really tell or not.
(For the record, the guy called back and I took the call, and my judgment was that no, he wasn't gay, he was just from Manhattan, and no, there's not much difference really, not aurally anyway.)
"It's that metrosexual thing," one coworker said.
"That is so not my scene," said the shipping coordinator. "I want a man who'll beat the crap out of me."
There was a long pause.
"Er," she said, "who could."
I mean, I can see her point, sure. There's something about a big rugged masculine manly man who can sling you over his shoulder or whatever. Though the fact that I'm the size I am means that for that to work I'd need a 300-pound gorilla, and you know, I think, you know, that's OK, I don't really, yeah.
Obviously that's not my type.
(Though I've noticed in my novels a lot of times the hero is a big burly dude, or at least tall. I think my next hero is going to be short, or at least skinny. zomg time to squee over nicholas from Death of the Necromancer again, guys, and the scene where he's being escorted under guard and looks around and all the guards are like twice his size and heavily armed and he makes a joke to them about it... and then takes their lieutenant hostage once they've stopped paying attention to him)
Me, I'm sitting here inwardly squeeing over how friggincute it is when Z refers to Chita as "our furbaby". I know he's being mostly ironic but I think it's hilarious. Also last night while he was shopping online for sheets he said "Sometimes I wish I was gay so I could order towels monogrammed 'His' and 'His'."
Yeah, I know there's not much deep gender theory in this post but that's sort of my life at the moment. If there's something deep it's probably buried.
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Date: 2007-10-05 06:39 pm (UTC)Death of the Necromancer?
Yes, yes you have. And then you've got to reread Gate of the Gods, particularly the scene where Ixion destroys the sphere and Nicholas sees Arisilde, because having seen Nicholas and Arisilde actually interacting and the delicate and gentle way Nicholas copes with Arisilde's madness and drug addiction makes Florian's observation of Nicholas's face at the sight of the ghost a great deal more illuminating.
I never cared much for him in the trilogy-- he had only a few scenes, he seemed so smug, and seeing him through the lens of Tremaine just made him seem cold (she even describes him as "emotionally frozen" and I more or less wrote him off as such). But in the earlier book you can see a lot more how damaged he is and why and how oddly he copes, and appreciate much more what he is up to in the trilogy.
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Date: 2007-10-05 06:42 pm (UTC)He gets like a paragraph in the trilogy, but he's brilliant. And extremely gay.
And her copy editor tried to edit that out! There's a whole scene where Madeline is asking him if he and Nicholas ever slept together, and there's a scene where he's kissing Nicholas's fingers to shock someone (and Nicholas is utterly unfazed), and how on earth would you edit that out? But this misguided punctuation-checker tried....